Cool, I got the PM. I'm gonna try to save some $$ too by buidling the box myself, but it won't be much. Only problem is, that this money will flow in over time, so I'm going to unfortunately have to buy piece by piece. Luckily I have all the wiring i need already running throughout the car, so the teedious panel/seat removing is over. I think I'll start with a new deck first, and just leave my rear amp unplugged. then I'll buy an amp to replace it, but leave that unplugged until I buy the subs+box. On top of that a credit-card is on the way, so system (and debt

) here i come!