umm he said the gain is at 10? and it goes up to 11? not to sure if thats right and i don't really know much about these amps, and yes Vision's had set the gain and all the other stuff on the amp, i'll have to ask him if he turned up the bass or not. another thing he said was that the bass on his amp was turnned up all the way when they tuned it for him. Thanx for all the advice