Xraycat - Did you get the Kicker? I'm looking at those refurbs on eBay for $210 delivered. Plus right now I can get 6% eBay bucks credit on purchases thru 6/29, so even better! Can get a 3 yr warranty from Square Trade for cheap. I assume that it will be plenty to run a 10" sub and whatever I end up replacing in the front of my 07 G35 sedan.