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Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Barrie, Ontario Posts: 1,300
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|  | |   |   | | | | CCA Hoser
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario Brantford Posts: 186
| i haven't been i this as long as you guys, but i like cspl more than db drag, the rules are more fair for guys like me with low power, and the prizes are awsome every show. i wish you guys could colaberate and have cspl at every show you have jay. maybe if the guys in hamilton new about cspl his shows would be bigger. the only cspl shows around our area is cambridge, and i don't think people from simcoe, portdover, brantford,etc... know about cspl so they don't go. i think cspl would succeed if the shows were spread out more around southern ontario, and if the big db drag shows advertised them. i understand you guys have been in the business for a while, and i was in this too back in 2000,( i met richard at audio avenue in simcoe in his civic, when he had kicker solobaric's) so it's in your blood. i think if you gave cspl a chance i'd be way bigger than it is. i don't know what richards view's are on this subject but i believe cspl can be huge.
this is just my opinion as a semi-newbie so i'm not trying to start a argument. | |
| | | | | | | | CCA Hoser
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ontario , hamilton Posts: 243
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Originally Posted by turboeeyore  i haven't been i this as long as you guys, but i like cspl more than db drag, the rules are more fair for guys like me with low power, and the prizes are awsome every show. i wish you guys could colaberate and have cspl at every show you have jay. maybe if the guys in hamilton new about cspl his shows would be bigger. the only cspl shows around our area is cambridge, and i don't think people from simcoe, portdover, brantford,etc... know about cspl so they don't go. i think cspl would succeed if the shows were spread out more around southern ontario, and if the big db drag shows advertised them. i understand you guys have been in the business for a while, and i was in this too back in 2000,( i met richard at audio avenue in simcoe in his civic, when he had kicker solobaric's) so it's in your blood. i think if you gave cspl a chance i'd be way bigger than it is. i don't know what richards view's are on this subject but i believe cspl can be huge.
this is just my opinion as a semi-newbie so i'm not trying to start a argument. |
i think cspl has a great following and richard does great with them... however why would i add another sanctioning body to the 3 or so shows i put on a year?
the reason i like db drag is because of the 2 mics... its head to head... plus the mic is more accurate... i also have an audiocontrol along with nick and we choose db drag because of the mic....
i think it would be great idea if richard and the rest of his crew changed to the termlab... it is very accurate and all the dbdrag guys would go cuz then they could compare their scores to db drag very easily..
my 2 cents
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| | | | | | | | CCA McKenzie
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Oshawa, Ontario Posts: 887
| about the bassrace wont help comment, i personally drove down to michigan/indiana this year for a 5x weekend, (also hit the hammilton show on the way down) and let me say, bass race is HUGE down there(and it was pretty big at the hammilton show i must say, just not as big.....yet), wow.....db drag only took up like 1/3 of the day, 2/3rds of the day was bass race.
enouph people didnt even touch db drag, just played in bassrace, and enouph people did both.
by the end of the trip i was pretty much convinced that bassrace will save the industry, its all demos and music, thats what draws people in.
anywyas, just thought id give a lil input into this of what i learned this season. i will be participating in every bass race event that i can make it to next season.
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Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ontario, mississauga Posts: 927
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Originally Posted by spl legend richard revived db drag??? ummm i dont think so... i would personally say that people like yuli, les, spl inc and countless others are to thank....
i honestly dont like writing on richards posts cuz he bashes me on mine, but that statement is so incredibly false i have to say something...
adding db drag shows doesnt make you the saviour, all it does is get more cars to your own cspl event?
there is a reason why nick and i bash heads with richard so much, cuz we have been in this scene with him for almost 10 years!!
richard started off competing with a little red civic back in the year 2000, i met him in mildmay with a whole bunch of blaupunkt overdrive woofers in a wall with 2" pvc pipe for ports... he had absolutely no idea what he was doing? but he was still competing in dbdrag...
what i am trying to say is this... richard was into db drag a long time before cspl... why he created cspl is beyond me? he says that it is for all the newbies? well db drag has a stock class also? why he had to create a new format is beyond me? probably for automobilitys benefit...
if all promoters worked together it would be highly beneficial but noone wants to listen to anyone...
i have some of the most successful shows in canada so i have nothing to lose but noone will listen or work together...
and to the person who says that bassrace is not gonna fix anything i have this to say...
BASSRACE IS THE FUTURE OF SPL anyone who denies that is blind!! i get anywhere from 30-50 cars at my shows and i get a minimum of 20 cars in bassrace.. even ask bill and erie from psycoacoustics and they will tell you the same thing!!! it is easy to do and anyone can beat anyone at any time no matter how much time or money you spend on your car!!! |
Jay I started this in 2006. How many shows were there in the GTA or in Ontario were there in 2006. From what people told me there was not too many at all. One thing I noticed in 2007 when the cspl schedule came out then I noticed more shows popping up. Maybe I'm clueless but how come when the 07 schedule popped up everyone else wanted to throw shows??? Seem kinda funny to me. Please explain that one to me bro cause maybe I'm missing something that you can shed light on for me.  | |
| | | | | | | | CCA Back Bacon
Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Richmond Hill Posts: 40
| Well, I am an AMA competitor, and honestly, im impartial to music or tones.
I loose 0 to .3 or so on music, but i'm assuming everyone else is around the same. My only real gripe with it is that it wastes lots of time to find a good song for the freq you need. Not to mention, it has to be a retail CD.
real amatures will play music regardless because they don't know what their peak frequency is, wont have access to a tones disk, or simply don't care. In the end, its not gonna change much. Highest scores in AMA will go up a tiny bit, the low ones will stay the same.
In my humble opinion, if you open up tones to AMA classes, it will encourage people to compete. It's much easier to play a tone then to find your song every time your frequency changes, and makes AMA's feel they are actualy on the same playing field as the pro's. Perhaps encouraging them to go further into SPL and maybe one day compete at a higher level.
best thing to do, ask the AMA competitors what they want. You have my vote. | |
| | | | | | | | CCA McKenzie
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario Sudbury Posts: 581
| I lose an avearge of 2-3db playing music from a tone, and that is due to the fact of a peak frequeny tuned box, my best song selection got me only a 1.5 db loss, leave the option open of what you want to play, just not burned discs, only commercially available stuff, tones or not. And also Richard you need more northern shows. 90% of the shows were hours away from sudbury. As opposed to 30min-1hour drive for southerners to most of the shows. Im not saying move 50% of it up here just broaden the horizon. I love to compete but also spending 100 bucks every weekend just on gas... i can do alot more with my money.
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