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Old 05-30-2005, 08:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I might get one off a friend so tell me everything you know about them, (what you use it for, laws, saftey, etc)

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Old 05-30-2005, 09:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Waste of money in my opinion. All of the ones I've seen I could speedwalk faster than. I'm not sure about the laws, but I would assume it's the same as driving a golf cart down the street which I found out the hard way is very illegal. You aren't going fast enough and are low enought to the ground that if you fall off, people will laugh and you shouldnt get too badly hurt, but a helmet could help. They are basically cool for the first 10 minutes, then they turn into a huge waste of ~$600. Why do you think that your friend is trying to sell his?
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I sell them.

They're okay, not my favourite product by a long shot though. They're engineered well, but slapped together with weak metal and "not-so-precision" fitting parts, much like anything made in China.

That said, they do what they say, lots of fun, if you don't mind the high maintenance. Performance upgrades are plentiful. Parts are commonly stocked, at least for the Kazuma brands that I sell.

Canada Transport has it "out" for them though. They hate them and there is much talk of a total ban on them. They make it extremely difficult to get them in the country at all, currently, their newest hurdle they've created is a 90 day stasis period. Ship some pocket bikes into the country, and they have to sit in the Customs warehouses for 90 days, no reason given. Just because they felt like it.

They are illegal ANYwhere on public streets. You cannot ride them on your street at home, to the store, in a campground, or anywhere the general puclic has access. Most people think, oh well, I'll just go for a boot in the Cosco parking lot after it closes...

Nuh-uh. The law states that the parking lot must be closed off to the general public. So now you need a city permit and several hundred meters of chain link fencing too. Get caught in the parking lot, you get the no insurance fine ($5000), no registration fine (dunno how much it is), and your bike gets impounded. Sure, you could call up your insurance agent and get PL/PD stuck on it easy enough, but you can't ever register it. The chickie behind the counter will call you a whacko - "You can't register one of those things in THIS country!"

I do know that one or two go-kart tracks have let them on their tracks, "Don't get hurt or we'll just sweep ya under the bridge" kinda thing. All ya can do is ask...

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my buddy has two of them. Used them for a about a week now they sit in his shed. They were fun to start off
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Old 05-30-2005, 10:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have a friend that sells a ton of them from his shop. They are cool for about 15 minutes, then they are a pain in the ass to maintain and find a place to ride. They can get going pretty good though, we clocked one of his with an aftermarket pipe at 60 kmh. Freeing up 2 hp does amazing things to something so light. He is now bringing in some mini choppers that can be registered for the street. It is basically classified the same as a scooter, but has to be registered similar to a custom chopper, which can be a pain.
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I sell these mini-choppers too, I was booting around on a 110cc one at the 3X Oval just this weekend... $1499 + GST, 110cc 4 stroke, 3 speeds, I've had it up to about 50k, should do about 80k I thinks.

Register it? No, they're not registerable. There were specific rules drawn up for the mini-choppers when they were brought in the country... Like I said, Transport Canada is viscous...
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There is one registered here in the Hat. You have to add all the safety stuff (lights, speedo etc.)
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under (it's close to this number ) 50 cc in Ontario (maybe other provinces) is NOT considered a motor vehicle. So, you'll see lots of them in the 49 range to get past the law.
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we all have them at the store, theya re fun as hell and a good release after work. i shaved the head on mine, k/n style filer, piped and jetted mine and it will scare the crap out of you. the giovanni ones(square frame 49cc ones)are junk makes sure you get the one with the tube frame, duke style
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The one I'm talking about is the racing style one, I think its the bigger one, I dunno how many cc probably 49 and he said it goes about 55km. He's not selling it but he said if I wanted it I could have it for $400.
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