Welcome to Canadian Car Audio - Canada’s #1 Car Audio Forum   Members
 

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-16-2006, 07:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
Red Top Vs. Yellow Top
CCA McKenzie
 
fozzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
iTrader: (1)
Posts: 876
What's the real difference between the two types of batteries? The Red top has a much better warrenty and it's less expensive. I've looked through the Optima web site and I can't find out why the yellow is "better" for car audio use. In my case, I will only have one battery in the car. And chances are the battery will never be drained completly. For those two main reasons I'm leaning toward the Red Top. Am I wrong?
__________________
TEAM HYBRID AUDIO



"I have a 1500 watt hair dryer, but it sounds like sh!t"
fozzz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2006, 08:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
Supporting Member
 
worldind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
iTrader: (13)
Posts: 973
Images: 3
I believe the yellowtop is deepcycle, while the redtop is geared towards cranking power... I think.
worldind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2006, 08:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
CCA McKenzie
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: saskatchewan
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 509
kewl ive always wondered that too :P thx
matt_p is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2006, 09:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
CCA Golden Toque
 
veeman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ontario, woodbridge
iTrader: (3)
Posts: 1,953
Images: 10
If you're only going to have one battery, then use the red top. yellow top is not needed unless you have a pretty extreme system and you will be playing it a lot with the engine not running.
__________________
2004 300M SPECIAL
Alpine CDA 9833
Alpine Pxa-h701
Alpine Rux-c701
Rockford fosgate p400-4
Rockford fosgate p4004
Hifonics BX 1205D
JBL c608 GTi
JBL p693
Infinity 2.5" center channel
Alpine type R 12"(2)
all active SQL set up with 1900 watts rms
veeman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2006, 09:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
CCA McKenzie
 
GrizZz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Calgary, AB
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 749
Yellow tops generally will take more abuse. They're designed for some cyclic use, not true DEEP discharges. But they can handle a bit of it.

You're sticking with just one battery you say. Costwise, red tops are the way to go. Don't let Cosco and Wal-Mart fool you by looking cheaper, they sell the smaller red tops, make sure you're getting a 34/78DT not a 35/75DT (the 35/75 is physically smaller, and not as much oomph of course). Of course, depending on your vehicle, you may have to go with the smaller one.

So, say you're in the habit of parking with the tunes on... Not for long, just for 10 minutes. But you do it once every day or two, say 15 to 20 times a month. That's habitual cycling. No, you're not discharging it deeply, but 10 minutes on a system of 1Kw or greater at say 60 to 70% output... That's significant. Your red top will not like you for this. Two or three years, four if you're lucky, and you'll be looking for a new one.

A yellow top will handle this abuse better. They are designed for much more severe abuse, and regular cycling. It might stand up to it for 5 or 6 years, more if you're lucky.

A red top that is not abused will last for years and years. My brother has one in his truck that will be ten years old this August (yes, we date our batteries). He does not have a stereo system. He's accidently drained it by leaving his dome lights on 3 or 4 times over the years. It's still going strong.

If you're using it for SPL competition purposes, a yellow top is the way to go. During competition, you abuse the heck out of it, so to get any more than one or two seasons out of them, go yellow. There is a group 31 Optima yellowtop (they don't make a red) that is very popular among the DbDrag crowd. It squeeks in under the 800cc rule, and is one powerful mofo...

Basically, you weigh the odds. Reds cost much less & have a better warranty. But they won't handle severe abuse, and most severe abusers get a halved warranty, just like diesels and courier vehicles. Yellows cost much more, have less warranty (that has no diesel/courier/abuse clause), but handle abuse like nothing else.

If ya haven't figured it out, I'm an Optima dealer. PM or check out my linked website for more info.
__________________

95 Astro Cargo Van
KW KDC-X979
DVD, XBox, Sirius
RF Punch 55.2 - Orion Cobalt 5 1/4's
ALP V12 - KW KFCX698 6x9's
CLAR APX400.4 - KFC-X698
(2)Orion 1200D - (1)Orion H2 12.2
Roger Waters June 23rd Pengrowth Saddledome WooHOO!

Last edited by GrizZz; 05-16-2006 at 09:48 PM.
GrizZz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2006, 09:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
CCA McKenzie
 
wiltshire559's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: CFB Edmonton, AB
iTrader: (1)
Posts: 772
Quote:
Originally Posted by veeman
If you're only going to have one battery, then use the red top. yellow top is not needed unless you have a pretty extreme system and you will be playing it a lot with the engine not running.
good as I have a red top and don't play the system without the engine running, thanks to Grizz post I'm going out now to see what version of the red top I have, not that it matter but didn't know there were two of them
checked and mine is a 34/78 from Walmart, 800 CCA

Last edited by wiltshire559; 05-16-2006 at 10:04 PM.
wiltshire559 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2006, 09:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
CCA Hoser
 
infared_vision's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: ontario
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 66
WoW.

Thanks for the knowledge Grizz

how much the yellow bad boys run for ?
infared_vision is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2006, 10:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
Hof
CCA Hoser
 
Hof's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
iTrader: (2)
Posts: 299
I'm looking to upgrade my battery on a budget. I have always read about the yellow top, but the red top defintetely suits my needs. Is the walmart battery similar caliber? Also, what are the going rates on both the walmart bat and the red top?
__________________
I'm already obsessing and I haven't even bought a new vehicle yet.

I think I have a problem.
Hof is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2006, 12:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
CCA McKenzie
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 601
think there going around the 130 ish mark IIRC.

what about the orbitals? what orbital is simalar to a redtop?

I dont ever play my system without the truck on, but I will be getting a winch so I guess a yellow top would be better for that, right?
__________________
87 Nissan Hardbody/truggy. Tube frame. full EXO. 39.5" IROKs. 18" FOA coilovers ft/rr. D60's. 5.89

4.3/4l60e/207/205-all sold. now putting a TBI 350, 700r4(.5"valve, corrvette servo, red band, shift kit), 203/205 triple stick.

______________________________/\/ / _\'' /\/\ ()_______________________________
WD21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2006, 02:17 AM   #10 (permalink)
CCA Hoser
 
Reekor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 150
Images: 1
I'm not sure what you have seen at Cosco, but I just bought two 34/78 there for $179 a pop. $130 for red tops. The yellow top 34/78 also states that it's for deepcycle and starting.



Quote:
Originally Posted by GrizZz
Yellow tops generally will take more abuse. They're designed for some cyclic use, not true DEEP discharges. But they can handle a bit of it.

You're sticking with just one battery you say. Costwise, red tops are the way to go. Don't let Cosco and Wal-Mart fool you by looking cheaper, they sell the smaller red tops, make sure you're getting a 34/78DT not a 35/75DT (the 35/75 is physically smaller, and not as much oomph of course). Of course, depending on your vehicle, you may have to go with the smaller one.

So, say you're in the habit of parking with the tunes on... Not for long, just for 10 minutes. But you do it once every day or two, say 15 to 20 times a month. That's habitual cycling. No, you're not discharging it deeply, but 10 minutes on a system of 1Kw or greater at say 60 to 70% output... That's significant. Your red top will not like you for this. Two or three years, four if you're lucky, and you'll be looking for a new one.

A yellow top will handle this abuse better. They are designed for much more severe abuse, and regular cycling. It might stand up to it for 5 or 6 years, more if you're lucky.

A red top that is not abused will last for years and years. My brother has one in his truck that will be ten years old this August (yes, we date our batteries). He does not have a stereo system. He's accidently drained it by leaving his dome lights on 3 or 4 times over the years. It's still going strong.

If you're using it for SPL competition purposes, a yellow top is the way to go. During competition, you abuse the heck out of it, so to get any more than one or two seasons out of them, go yellow. There is a group 31 Optima yellowtop (they don't make a red) that is very popular among the DbDrag crowd. It squeeks in under the 800cc rule, and is one powerful mofo...

Basically, you weigh the odds. Reds cost much less & have a better warranty. But they won't handle severe abuse, and most severe abusers get a halved warranty, just like diesels and courier vehicles. Yellows cost much more, have less warranty (that has no diesel/courier/abuse clause), but handle abuse like nothing else.

If ya haven't figured it out, I'm an Optima dealer. PM or check out my linked website for more info.
Reekor is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Advertisers










advertise here

» Recent Threads
16 volt batteries
Last post by BIGEVIL
Today 09:30 AM
How to fit 2x SD8000 in a CRX
Last post by Deitz
Today 09:09 AM
Who wants a WINTER SHOW?
Last post by turboeeyore
Today 09:05 AM
Please help me spend my $$money$$
Last post by MR2NR
Today 07:04 AM
150A ANL Fuse Melted!!
Last post by Sasha
Today 05:23 AM
Mortgages | Mortgage | Rare Jordans | Credit Card | Web Advertising

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0
Canadian Car Audio
Page generated in 0.37665 seconds with 12 queries