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Old 06-23-2008, 03:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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all cars are disposable. I thought my first ride would last forever. I was always saving money for upgrades, but spent it all on repairs. It was cheaper to get a newer car.
Same thing happened with the next car. As it got older and got more miles, I was spending more in maintenance than i would spend on payments for a brand new car.
Since then, I'm now driving the 6th Car i've bought brand new. Yes, the 3 Cav Z24's were disposable, but i traded others in and always upgraded.

Newer cars come with more built in electronics and conveninience features. So, most newer cars come with a fair sized alternator.
Newer cars are way easier to work on, no rust. and you don't even get dirty running power wire through the chassis.
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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thats true even my caliber has a 120amp alt stock, and lifetime bumper to bumper...
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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that is true but i still find that the cavelier and the sunfire really cheaply built and needs lots of repair with time compared to a well built car toyota and honda are kinda made cheap but they have a kick ass ingine that doesnt need much repair
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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How about one of those brand new 2 door accent hatch.
Or a 93 and up camaro.
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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2nd the VW!
look at diesel if u dont want to spent too much time repairing. also cheaper fuel alterative (biodiesel)..
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Old 06-23-2008, 07:48 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Stick with Toyota or Honda
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:14 PM   #17 (permalink)
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that is true but i still find that the cavelier and the sunfire really cheaply built and needs lots of repair with time compared to a well built car toyota and honda are kinda made cheap but they have a kick ass ingine that doesnt need much repair
Meh, maybe you had a dud or maybe I'm lucky. My 2001 Z24 has 88k on her, and the only thing I've ever had to fix was a tire (today, actually). No squeaks, runs perfect, burns no oil and gets 40mpg on the highway if I drive nice.
Good cheap transportation. Literally 1000000x more reliable than my brother's 98 Neon Sport with the DOHC engine. LOL, not even remotely comparable.
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:16 PM   #18 (permalink)
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yaa i think your a lucky one lol i wonder if your car is comfy hehe last one i got in was hard on the asss
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-2x Massive audio CW12 in 4.2cf dual chamber square ported at ~35hz

Amps: -DD SS1
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:20 PM   #19 (permalink)
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i dont know about the newer ones but i find that they rust faster than usual lol
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-2x Massive audio CW12 in 4.2cf dual chamber square ported at ~35hz

Amps: -DD SS1
-KAC-745

Upgrades: -160 amp alt. maybe
-4 gauge wiring (done)
-0 gauge BIG 3 (done)
-sound deadning the shit out of the van somewhat not done yet
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:56 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Mine isn't bad in terms of comfort. When I go back home to visit (850km each way), I'm not sore at all after the trip. It's alot stiffer than my best friend's 2.2ohv cav, but I've been in alot worse. Absolutely no rust on mine, anywhere either. She's not the fastest thing in the world, but 0-60 in ~7.7secs, and mid-15 second 1/4 mile times bone stock aren't horrible for an econobox IMO. Never had any troubles merging with traffic or passing anyone (even with the 5spd).

I'm not a chev guy by a long shot, but my Z24 has treated me pretty well so far. No reason to ditch her for something else, at least not yet.
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