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Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 265
| More watts won't help if the other stuff is overlooked (bad box etc). Google 'subwoofer efficiency vs power handling'. 1250W won't blow up a 1000W woofer, turn it down if you hear distortion, it's that simple. Some speakers that are rated to handle 1000W, people are putting 3000W on them and it takes it just fine. Some woofers are highly underrated, others highly overrated.
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Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London ON Posts: 245
| i had 1000rms on a kicker CVR(rated at 400rms) and it loved it haha lasted a few months then i sold it and the owner says it still works great
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Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kitchner/Waterloo Posts: 252
| So How big should a Dual Ported box be for 2 Premier subs and how many hertz is good to get great lows and highs ? Btw how much will it cost ? Dimensions too ? Because u all have said it all depends on the box |
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Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lindsay, Ontario Posts: 237
| Post the model number for the subs that you have and we can look up the specs and box recommendations. As far as overpowering a sub goes I personally like to run an amp close to double the subs RMS rating of the sub, but there are correct and incorrect ways of doing this. Headroom can be a very good thing.
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Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario Sudbury Posts: 571
| I did say it was a little too much power for the SUB not subs, due to the fact i have ran these subs before and they are overrated. And i also said i have had 3500 watts to 1 12 premier before and it was fine it is all in your dialing. When someone asks if a 1000 watt sub can handle 1500 watts i automatically say no because many people do not know how to properly dial in their amps.
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Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kitchner/Waterloo Posts: 252
| Pioneer does not Over-rate their products i have been using them for sometime and they do really get serious loud ... i used to have Premier SPL series but some guy made a good offer for the two so sold it to him biggest mistake done by me lol .... But the new premier is made the same but built in compression quality , i do believe they produce 1000 RMS . |
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Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario Sudbury Posts: 571
| Im telling you if you put 2000 rms on them in a box even bigger then 3 cubes their toast. And if you know so much about the subs, why in the hell are you asking for advice on them? Their subs are all over rated other then the TS-W5102spl and 8102spl, i didnt say they were garbage, just that their loudspeakers are overrated.
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Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kitchner/Waterloo Posts: 252
| The subwoofer model is Premier TS-W3001D4 and these are the specs
* Sensitivity: 89 dB
* RMS Power Range : 1000 Watts
* Peak Power Handling: 3000 Watts
* Impedance: Dual 4 Ohm
* Low Frequency response: 18 Hz
* High Frequency Response: 700 Hz
* Diameter: 12 Inch
* Premier 12" Champion Series PRO Subwoofers
* Powerful design to deliver deep, impactful bass
* IMPP Cone with Carbon Fiber/Glass Fiber Reinforcement
* Air Suspension System allows use in extremely small enclosures
* Wide-Roll, 3-Layer Fiber Woven Aramid Radial with Honeycomb Cloth Surround
* Dual 4-Layer, Long Voice Coil
* Copper Voice Coil
* Phenol Resin Coated Glass Cloth Voice Coil Bobbin
* Projected Pole Yoke with Vented Pole
* Double Stacked (110oz) Magnet Construction
* Aluminum Die-Cast Rigid Chassis Basket
* 1-Piece Rubber Gasket
* Integrated Single-Sided Silver Compression Wire Terminals
* Recommended Enclosure: 0.50 ~ 1.0 Cubic Feet
* Weight: 28lbs
* Priced per speaker |
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Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kitchner/Waterloo Posts: 252
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Originally Posted by r1d1n5p1nn3r5 Im telling you if you put 2000 rms on them in a box even bigger then 3 cubes their toast. And if you know so much about the subs, why in the hell are you asking for advice on them? Their subs are all over rated other then the TS-W5102spl and 8102spl, i didnt say they were garbage, just that their loudspeakers are overrated. | And Crunch subs arent over-rated , Crunch subs say 600RMS when there 300RMS for a person who has crunch subs u shouldnt be bad mouthing Premiers |
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