Are these new Premier subs better or the old SPL series because this guy is selling it to me for 250 a pair but hes gonna send it from USA , is it safe in case there not in good condition he says there in mint condition but i dont know if its safe to buy them or Should i just stick with the new Series and forget the SPL ?

Get something else.

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Pioneer Premier TS-A 720PRS
Digital Designs M3
Digital Designs S4
Digital Designs A2 for DD tweeters in my dash
Digital Designs 9110d x 2
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Hushmat keeps it real
Kinetik Batteries keep it running
142db in an SQ Sentra.

You obviously dont know what you are doing if you have blown them up on 1000 watts, i have had one on 3500 for a whole year with no problems, sold it to a friend and it still works fine. And king kong the type x is not as effecient as the premier subs and is more of an sq sub.

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im sorry but how the hell did u think u where getting a 2500rms amp for $240 with a 1 year warranty?? lol

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ITs not 2500RMS its 1250RMS

I was also getting a Kicker ZXI750.1 for 190 brand new i know some people thats why i get cheap shit

Btw how long does it take to break open you new subs because i heard when their new there pretty stiff ?

i know its not 2500rms, it was eihter this thread or a different one that u started(im to lazy to check lol) and u said u thought it was 2000+rms as u have or getting 2 of tehse 1000rms subs

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I've been installing for 19 years. I've got trophies to prove that I know what I'm doing. What have you got?

My point was that those subs are just junk! I would take an MTX, Type X, or Atomic over Premier 3001's any day of the week. I am running DD 9110's (800 watts rms) in my car right now with 2400 watts.

At our last show, we plugged a 10" Premier into the wall. It lasted less than 3 seconds. The MTX bottom line product lasted almost 3 minutes. That says a lot about them now doesn't it?

What kind of amp did you have running that sub with 3500 watts? Pyramid? or some other Maxxsonics type of product?

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Pioneer Premier DEH-P800PRS
Pioneer Premier TS-A 520PRS
Pioneer Premier TS-A 720PRS
Digital Designs M3
Digital Designs S4
Digital Designs A2 for DD tweeters in my dash
Digital Designs 9110d x 2
Streetwires makes my world go around
Hushmat keeps it real
Kinetik Batteries keep it running
142db in an SQ Sentra.

I have trophies to, that dont mean nothing. And you have been installing for 19 years? Cant teach an old dog new tricks, keep installing 5 disc cd changers to stock decks and run all loudspeakers in sealed enclosures. The only MTX worth my time is a 9500 series, type x is a paper weight when it comes to spl or power, and i have seen even atomics last 5 seconds on a wall socket. My ground pounders have lasted longer on a wall socket longer then the atomics. Does that make them better? Not even close. I never have run pyramid before, nor have i worked with it, never will. Maxxsonics? what bad do you have to say about their products? For the PRICE of any of their products they beat any other brand out there performance wise. As for the amp, I ran an Ultimate T3 1000d amp @ 2ohms mono i know it wasnt exactly 3500 but substantial power enough to a 100 $ pioneer sub for a whole year.

http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/Ultimate_T3-1000D/

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What are you 12? Grow up!

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Pioneer Premier DEH-P800PRS
Pioneer Premier TS-A 520PRS
Pioneer Premier TS-A 720PRS
Digital Designs M3
Digital Designs S4
Digital Designs A2 for DD tweeters in my dash
Digital Designs 9110d x 2
Streetwires makes my world go around
Hushmat keeps it real
Kinetik Batteries keep it running
142db in an SQ Sentra.